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までして — “going as far as to do (something extreme)”
Emphasizes just how extreme a means was, used to reach some end
Verb (in its noun-modifying/plain form) + までして emphasizes that an extreme or costly method was used to achieve something, almost always with a note of the speaker questioning whether it was worth it — “(going) so far as to use X as a means.” It's closely related to てまで, often interchangeable with it.
How to form it
| Pattern | Example |
|---|---|
| Plain form + までして | 無理をしてまでして、間に合わせる必要はない — There's no need to push yourself that hard just to make it in time |
Example sentences
| Japanese | Reading | Meaning |
|---|---|---|
| 人を騙してまでして、お金を稼ぎたくない。 | ひとをだましてまでして、おかねをかせぎたくない。 hitowodamashitemadeshite、okanewokasegitakunai。 | I don't want to make money by going so far as to deceive people. |
| 健康を犠牲にしてまでして、働く必要はない。 | けんこうをぎせいにしてまでして、はたらくひつようはない。 kenkouwogiseinishitemadeshite、hatarakuhitsuyouhanai。 | There's no need to work at the cost of sacrificing your health. |
| 借金をしてまでして、旅行に行くことはない。 | しゃっきんをしてまでして、りょこうにいくことはない。 shakkinwoshitemadeshite、ryokouniikukotohanai。 | There's no need to go into debt just to go on a trip. |
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Watch out
までして almost always appears with a negative judgment attached (だれかを傷つけてまでして…する必要はない) — it isn't used to neutrally praise an impressive effort; save it for questioning whether the cost was worth it.